I just knew you were gonna respond somewhat like that. So much for the sentimentalities of mine. But I did mention I'd stay neutral. It's been my motto for a long time. In the game, I killed Ulfric, because he was an ass. I racked up an enormous bounty resisting arrest in Markath. I subsequently halted the progression of the questline before I decided I wanted to see the "King in Rags" myself. Eventually, I helped out the Forsworn King because I grew to like them more than Ulfric's cronies, who were running the city. I still kill any Forsworn that attack me first. So, I hope my pattern of unequaled neutrality makes itself apparent here. But, I suppose you want a political answer? It's a shame they were pushed from their lands. Then again, picture not two races, but just one human race in general. Without the racial discrepancies, it looks to me that they were just outcompeted for resources, because, remember, even before Ulfric grabbed back Markarth, the Forsworn took it back from the Nords, who originally only competed for resources with them. I must emphasize that the Nords simply quarreled with them long ago. The Nords from Atmora and the Bretons from High rock spread their societies until they intersected somewhere in Skyrim, and then started duking it out. It was the empire that spread their rule to every corner of Tamriel that insisted their Nord auxiliary invade The Reach. I'd say it's their fault, but then again, peace had to be achieved. You see the infantilities of the bickering in political gray-areas? That's why I hate politics. It's unfortunate that a family of greedy bastards and their Stormcloak faction are dicks, but If I had to choose between the Markarth rulers and the Forsworn, I'd be choosing between two factions of dicks, neither of which I like. They don't speak for all the Nords. Now that's what you expected now, isn't it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On a side note: Blake, for whatever cacamayme reason I feel compelled to honor my new title of "Keeper of the Tomes", it sure feels like it's going to take away my options for what I gotta post... So I hope you don't mind that I might just keep the title because it sounds kinda cool, but I might start off to queries with irreverence. You know, my own free-ass way. So, uh, thanks...