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So my last two big Facebook fights have revolved around people and their perceptions of what a sport or athlete are. I feel a sport is something physically demanding (which can conveniently be measured in calories burned), and an athlete is someone who partakes in these physically demanding sports. By my definition, Nascar is not a sport (this is not to say it is not difficult), nor are the drivers athletes.

So my question to you is this: are horseback riders really "athletes," or is it just the horse? I said that the horse was the only thing that could be considered an athlete in that scenario and was "ripped apart" (i.e. "u so dumb l0l!") by a never ending tide of rather ditzy women

For those of you who want content, it started over this stupid facebook chain image...

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I thought this was absolutely hilarious for several reasons. For one, I put in something retarded like "driving to Wal Mart" in place of "riding horses," made the explanations dangerous and harrowing, and it came out perfect. Two, "You run 1 mile, I RIDE 10." enough said.

Anyways, after having a good 5+ people tell me how I'm "truely ignoreant" (seriously), I lost all faith in humanity. I even looked up the calories burned per hour for a 200lb man who rode a horse at walking speed. 228 calories. The same as brushing your teeth (for one hour) and less than cooking for the same period (240). My facts and quantitative analysis were quickly drowned out by the "OMG IT IS SO HARD" from people who have never done a sport in their lives.

Looks like the definition of sport and/or athlete is the next thing to be grossly distorted by the pussifying of America.

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How can you ride 10 miles in 2 minutes?I would say horse riding is a sport, just because it has a set of rules, a way to judge a winner, events, etc. Of course that opens the door for stupid activities to be declared as sports, but I think most people can work out the difference in those cases.As far as them being athletes though, I would have to say no. Even though the conventional definition of an athlete is somebody who plays a sport, I try to narrow that down a bit to sports that are actually physically demanding; again a definition open for interpretation but I think the average person can work it out. That being said, I don't see how drivers, riders, and similar players can be called athletes.As far as the picture goes, just lol. If Facebook is good for anything, it's the type of pictures that are poorly thrown together, yet somehow carry a mass of fans.

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Hell yeah there athletes a few reasons why:1. They train, breed and raise the horses from scratch.2. The riders have trained for years, if you don't move with the horses motion or sit wrong or twist your wrist at the wrong time your going to seriously hurt the horse (that's hard to explain to someone who's never ridden)3. Look up the calories for cantering on a horse, walking a horse is fuck all, that's why we started using horses.4. Horse riding is very broad as a sport. What particular part are you talking about?5. Horse Riders are great in the sack ;)I used to ride horses quite a lot, dated girls who own them and my sister has one too. This doesn't make me biased though. My sisters horse cost me a lot of damn cool shit when I was younger. There so fkn expensive.But yer there athletes, they train like every other sport. There's a lot more to riding a horse if you don't know what your looking at.

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5. Horse Riders are great in the sack Posted Image

Agreed. My bitch rides horses, and her legs come up to her armpits. Not literally, but you get the picture.

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1. They train, breed and raise the horses from scratch.
2. The riders have trained for years, if you don't move with the horses motion or sit wrong or twist your wrist at the wrong time your going to seriously hurt the horse (that's hard to explain to someone who's never ridden)
3. Look up the calories for cantering on a horse, walking a horse is fuck all, that's why we started using horses.
4. Horse riding is very broad as a sport. What particular part are you talking about?
5. Horse Riders are great in the sack Posted Image

1. Maybe some in the UK, but I personally don't know any who do that.
2. Yeah, I'm not saying it's not difficult, just that they're not really doing anything physically relative to the horse.
3. FTR the walking was basically trotting while on a horse (I believe). Racing is like ~530 per hour (if you raced at strong gallop for an hour which isn't happening).
4. Well, I'd say in general. Most of the people I know, though, just ride them around on the weekends and maybe do the occasional show. Most I think just show them, one does obstacle courses.
5. :tongue:

I guess I'd compare it to Nascar in that although it's difficult to do, I wouldn't consider them athletes. It's difficult to drive in heavy traffic and study for organic chemistry as well.If you go by Blexun's definition of a sport as a "competition had through explicit rules" or something, it would be a sport though.

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i think its a sport.. i ride horses.. i trail ride and i show jump some and i also ride broncos, and if you think it isnt physically demanding i would ask you how many times you have riden? because i can tell you this much, u gotta move with the motions of the horse and when you ride for a feew hours and you get off that horse youre gonna be sore as fuck... it takes all your muscles to stay on let alone to keep up with moving.. yea.. even upper body muscles.. yea the horses do more work... but if you think its so easy, jump on a horse and we shall see :) well theres my opinion

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i think its a sport.. i ride horses.. i trail ride and i show jump some and i also ride broncos, and if you think it isnt physically demanding i would ask you how many times you have riden? because i can tell you this much, u gotta move with the motions of the horse and when you ride for a feew hours and you get off that horse youre gonna be sore as fuck... it takes all your muscles to stay on let alone to keep up with moving.. yea.. even upper body muscles.. yea the horses do more work... but if you think its so easy, jump on a horse and we shall see :) well theres my opinion

I rode a horse for an hour. I worked muscles in my legs i never knew existed. Was the most painful next day ever. Worse than German Volume Training my Shoulders!?!

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I rode a horse for an hour. I worked muscles in my legs i never knew existed. Was the most painful next day ever. Worse than German Volume Training my Shoulders!?!

haha yea its pretty rough. i love riding horses though

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haha yea its pretty rough. i love riding horses though

I won't be doing it again.It was scary as hell. Like, really scary. Horses are big, and scary. Did i mention they are scary?

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lmao yea ive been riding since i was 5 years old so ive never really been scared of um. they arent that bad haha just gotta get used to um



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1. Maybe some in the UK, but I personally don't know any who do that.

Colorado is one of the biggest horse states in the US. You can't drive five miles without seeing a camp or people with their own personal horses for shows. They take it very seriously too.

Lets look at the definitions of a few things here

sport/spôrt/
Noun: An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others.

Activity involving physical exertion. Horseback riding does fit into that category. Skill, that's a check. Individual or team competes against another or others. That's a check too. So Horseback riding would fit under the category of a sport.

ath·lete/ˈaTHlēt/
Noun: A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise.

Proficient in sports. I guess this means if you aren't good you aren't an athlete. I can accept that, lol.

So this makes me ask, are pro-gamers considered Athletes? Is MLG technically a sport? How about people who play competitive Chess? It may not be much physical exertion but I bet they lose plenty of calories sweating out each move.

I'd really have to say the only part of the 'sport' definition I disagree with is the physical exertion. That's because I like the idea of video games being a sport though, lol. Skill is the most important thing in any sport. I also think that exertion of the brain is just as difficult as of the body.

As for being an athlete. You're either one of the best ( an athlete ) or you're just a random it seems.

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So this makes me ask, are pro-gamers considered Athletes? Is MLG technically a sport?

I wouldn't ever say that. I say a sport needs to be:1. Physical exertion2. Objective scoringThis means that gaming and cheerleading are not sports. Just my opinion, though. I'm kind of on the fence about horse riding.If you disagree with gaming not being a sport, think about this...would you ever call a professional gamer an "athlete?"

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I wouldn't ever say that. I say a sport needs to be:1. Physical exertion2. Objective scoringThis means that gaming and cheerleading are not sports. Just my opinion, though. I'm kind of on the fence about horse riding.If you disagree with gaming not being a sport, think about this...would you ever call a professional gamer an "athlete?"

what about darts, snooker, javelin, shotput even high jump? do you consider them athletes?

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I wouldn't ever say that. I say a sport needs to be:1. Physical exertion2. Objective scoringThis means that gaming and cheerleading are not sports. Just my opinion, though. I'm kind of on the fence about horse riding.If you disagree with gaming not being a sport, think about this...would you ever call a professional gamer an "athlete?"

Cheerleading takes no physical exertion? You try doing a double somersault after someone THROWS you into the air while landing on your feet. Sounds pretty physical to me. In fact it sounds more physical than some Olympic 'sports' you see at times.Also, how much physical exertion is needed for it to be a sport? I mean, I know I get physically tired after playing Battlefield for a few hours. My fingers hurt, my eyes hurt, my heart rate has risen.Also, for the record. Pro-gamers are called athletes last I checked. Since they are playing what is considered an 'e-sport' by the general public now.

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i love all the attention topics like this bring lol rather entertaining to read :) lol




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