
Gandalf's Fall: "Fly/Run You Fools!"
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Posted March 29, 2012 - 07:15 PM

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Posted March 29, 2012 - 07:43 PM

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Posted March 29, 2012 - 10:13 PM

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Posted March 29, 2012 - 10:54 PM

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Posted March 29, 2012 - 11:04 PM

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Posted March 29, 2012 - 11:05 PM

"With what?" you ask?I remember it being fly you fools when i first heard it cause im like really Gandalf...? fly WITH WHAT? then realized it was a figure of speech

Never knew it was such a big deal, lol. I just remember painting my bedroom with my Dad while watching the whole trilogy.That's what most people, including myself, seemed to hear the first time they saw the movie. There's a huge online backlash of the proud LOTR nerds who read the books flipping out when someone makes the error. When you see a reference to it, people say "run" 99% of the time. I actually had no idea it was fly until I read about it a few years after the movie was released.
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Posted March 29, 2012 - 11:09 PM

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Posted March 29, 2012 - 11:14 PM

It was a joke. The eagles wouldn't help because they refused to carry something so evil, according to the book anyway. So now you have a comeback to all those jokes.Yeah that's what I thought too at one point....but then how would they get into contact with the eagles? only the brown wizard can talk to them...
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Posted March 29, 2012 - 11:49 PM

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Posted March 30, 2012 - 12:44 AM

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Posted March 30, 2012 - 07:39 AM

That's why he had trouble at the end, though. I believe that the ring's effect on the bearer increased over time, making the long journey more dangerous. Hence Smeagle/Gollum's change.Frodo probably wouldn't of been able to build a resistance to the ring in that short flight.
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Posted March 30, 2012 - 01:02 PM

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Posted March 30, 2012 - 01:08 PM

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Posted March 30, 2012 - 01:48 PM

Very true about humans being weak, but consider that Deagol found the ring while fishing with Smeagol (both of them hobbits). Smeagol, who didn't even come in contact with it, fought and murdered Deagol when he refused to give it to him. Also, Sam lingered a bit when handing the ring to Frodo (after Frodo was poisoned by the spider and taken to that Orc place). I think Frodo was just more strong willed than anybody else, who probably wouldn't of willingly taken the ring to its destruction as far as he did.Yes, you are right about what'shisface did turn evil rather quick, but don't they also say that humans are very weak for the ring, whilst hobbits aren't? I think Frodo's attachment to the ring grew over time.
I've still not seen all the extended editions, and I am ashamed... I was going to watch them as a marathon, as the extended editions answer so many questions, like what happened to Sauroman.
And as far as Saruman goes, he convinced the Ents to let him go after the ring was destroyed. He travels with Grima Wormtongue

to the Shire. When he arrives there, he sees that his men and Orcs have already taken it over, so he secretly starts governing it. Later Frodo and friends lead a rebellion, exposes Saruman's role in all of this, and takes back the Shire. They let him live, even though Frodo was almost killed by Saruman, but Wormtoungue kills Saruman after being kicked and abused again.
I would also like to apologize for once again aiding in a thread heading off topic, but you have to admit this is a high quality discussion.

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Posted March 30, 2012 - 01:58 PM

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