David Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 So apparently after you upgrade Dragon Plate to Legendary it surpasses Daedric in armor rating. I hadn't realized this, but I still don't know if I'll switch over. I'm not a huge fan of the looks, personally, even though I'm usually a stat junky pver a fashionista. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yeah I read that too. First I was like , then I was like "sa;ldjflksd", then I was like "meh idc".As far as looks, Dragon kind of impresses me. However, Daedric as the better helmet. Then again it doesn't really matter. I tried my hand at some alchemy, enchanting, and smithing bonus stacking and managed to smith Dragon Plate, Dragon Scale, and Daedric to max rating and handed them out to my wife, Lydia, and myself.So basically, with perks and upgrades and the fact that both varieties are really strong, it doesn't really matter. If you are low on bones/scales, make Daedric. If you can't find hearts, go with Dragon. If you have both or neither, save for what looks best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 When I first saw that Daedric was better than DP - at least at the basic armor rating - I was slightly surprised. Then I reasoned that after you take Daedra hearts into account, it is quite a bit harder to get materials for smithing Daedric. Alas, it is not so anyways.So when is that alch/enchanting/smithing boosting guide coming out? I keep answering Yahoo questions and it comes up CONSTANTLY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 When I get 100 alchemy. I lucked out and found a high enchanting potion, which took care of the alchemy. I told myself I'll just spend money on trainers, but then I realized Skyrim trainers don't work like Oblivion trainers; instead of the money per level being based on your current level (lvl 47 cost 470), they have it so the more you pay to train, the higher the prices get.I'll one day realize I have nothing better to do and go on a giant's toe and wheat gathering spree, make some awesome alchemy gear, visit the thief stone, sleep with my wife, and just have at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I have to admit I didnt really like the dragonplate but its actually growing on me Got Daedric on at the moment though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yeah I'm back at heavy armor, so I think I'll go with Dragon. If anything, guards will just comment on how awesome I look. Also, it is pretty fucked up killing dragons, who have the ability to feel emotions, think independently, and have free will, while wearing armor made up of themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'm pretty sure daedric has an intimidation bonus during dialogue that dragon doesn't have. Can anyone confirm that / how much it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Meh 100 speechcraft and I picked up some persuasion and intimidation perks so I don't really care. But I never knew that .EDIT: Yeah. Apparently full set, not sure if this includes shield, raises intimidation chances by 10%. That 10% bonus is of the original chances, in other words it won't be 10% after any perks or enchanted gear you have is factored in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Finally remembered to personally test this. Without boosting via enchanting/alchemy, Dragonplate's Legendary AR is 83 (84? don't remember), while a Daedric chestplate is 87. Lies, I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Still think Dragon Plate looks cooler D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown ProbLem Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 So when is that alch/enchanting/smithing boosting guide coming out? I keep answering Yahoo questions and it comes up CONSTANTLY. In response to that, I'm working on it D: You're friendly Skyrim member is working on it. As stated in a PM, i have basically finished the Alchemy guide, just need type it out. After that i'm bumping up the Smithing guide instead, and thanks to your Table stuff, It'll look professional as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 In response to that, I'm working on it D: You're friendly Skyrim member is working on it. As stated in a PM, i have basically finished the Alchemy guide, just need type it out. After that i'm bumping up the Smithing guide instead, and thanks to your Table stuff, It'll look professional as well.That response was directed at me, which I finished that guide. We need an Alchemy guide and a Smithing guide that doesn't mention the iron dagger method though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown ProbLem Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Oh, well I was working on a different one, heh. but I need to test it out from the beginning, just from what I know about smithing, that nothing really gives XP anymore. I had around 100 Iron ingots and was even making Iron Armor and such, and it barely moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekychips Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 i just collected a ton of dwarven ingots from dungeons or melted down dwarven parts, made tons of dwarven bows. profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown ProbLem Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Well, isn't the base Smithing 15? So, somebody needs to start there I guess. Do we have a PC skyrim player? I could start to work on it for the 360 side, as I can get out of Whiterun and can get some cash and Ingots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Also, I did this quest and got some permanent effect called Elder Knowledge that gave a permanent 15% xp boost to smithing. Not sure if this would stack with Lovers Comfort and Warrior's Stone, but if it did, that is 50% more xp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown ProbLem Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 50% to make items better? because If you tempered up some Daedric wearing full +25% Smithing (x4) and chugged down a 120% Smithing Potion (those are legit, just wear full +25% alchemy gear, +100 Alchemy and a few perks spent) and that would be what... like 220%+50% or like 270% total Smithing Bonus? not too bad. Wonder what that would do for it.. adding in the +5 Heavy Armor perk and the armor rating bonus perks.Currently on my "Hunter" his full Dragonscale set gives him a little bit over 1200 legit armor rating. Due to just the Smithing armor and potion (+220%) and the +25% armor rating perks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Na the 50% is 50% more smithing xp, not improvement on items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown ProbLem Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 oh, well then :/ the +50% more would be awesome anyways xD but, I think that the +50% to xp itself is extremely useful now, and more a necessity than before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarnivalofSoulz Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 forget dragon armor Daedric all the way dudes.... all my stuff is Daedric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown ProbLem Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Some dragon is actually better than Daedric. as far as i know, D-Scale is the best light armor, but Daedric does have a little bit on D-bone, however, stated above, Daedric has an intimidation bonus underlying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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