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For Tynisa: Yes, you can ward in HoN, Dota2. In HoN, you can counterward. Oh, and the most important thing in HoN, your have a courier xD

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2. You can "deny" creeps and XP if you have gotten ahead in the laning phase far enough by harassing your opposing laner to a point where they can't lasthit creeps without taking too much harass. - Its not exactly that simple, but the theory is there.I still don't quite understand how being able to lasthit your own creeps makes any sense, and would like it explained in more detail if you don't mind.

There really isn't much to explain about it. It's just an added layer of strategy that is needed for the same concept. It changes how the gameplay is done completely. More micro-managing. Not only do you have to harass your lane, last hit the opponents creeps, and worry about the other lanes. You also have to worry if the opponent will last hit the creep first, meaning you wasted precious seconds trying to attack something that isn't there anymore. You also have to think about if it's worth denying that creep for your opponent instead of harassing because you may be low on health. Both are a risk, but denying a few creeps here or there is better than being killed or running ( teleporting ) back to base to heal. So many more factors because of this one single element.

3. Same. Early/Midgame/Endgame champs exist - But its not usually the be all and end all to a teamcomp, it can be based on quite a few factors. Eg. Laning, Teamfights, Synergy, Viability - but im sure that would be the same in any of these games?

Yea, pretty much. All of these things are staples in the MOBA game world and are pretty universal.

4. Suppose there are always going to be champions that are the same, but surely there are enough champs that are equally different to balance it out.

I agree. Even in games like DotA2 there are heroes that do things, then there are heroes that do the exact same thing ( in a nut shell ) only better. As the metagame shifts though, so do the top tier. I also know that DotA2 patches once every month, not sure about LoL.

5. Community is bad, agreed. You can ignore people ingame though, or at least, i thought you could, i'd have to research it. True though that leavers and feeders should be punished better, but if your good enough, you can still carry out of that hell hole - and to me, its actually kinda fun testing my limits of patience and skill.

Honestly, if even a half decent player gets fed enough in a game. You've already lost. This goes for LoL and DotA2 though. DotA2 just seems a bit harder to actually carry your whole team if you get fed though. It requires a bit more team work even if you are much more powerful. Since a single well placed Ult from almost anyone can decimate an entire team ( I'M TALKING TO YOU NAGA SIREN! ). Where in LoL, a well placed Ult will help but isn't guaranteed to take out a whole team if they got too cocky.

6. Hero's do take ages to aquire, or you need quite a bit of cash, so we are fully agreed :-P

I really think this is one of my biggest problems with LoL too. I don't want to play for weeks trying to get the Hero I really want to play. Just to find out I don't like them... Honestly I feel like the whole setup for their heroes is a big money making scheme. While making the game have the illusion of being 'free to play'. At least DotA2 is straight forward; Give us your cash, here is everything you need, have fun.

7. To Labuuuuushshshshhhh. Ingame teamspeak sounds AWESOME, and i wish LoL had it. Njaha.

DotA2 has built in TeamSpeak as well. It's nice :]

Quick one, can you ward things in HoN and Dota?

Not in the exact same sense as LoL, but I know in DotA2 you can. I would assume you can in HoN as well. It seems like a pretty basic concept especially if any characters have any invisibility spells.

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1. There really isn't much to explain about it. It's just an added layer of strategy that is needed for the same concept. It changes how the gameplay is done completely. More micro-managing. Not only do you have to harass your lane, last hit the opponents creeps, and worry about the other lanes. You also have to worry if the opponent will last hit the creep first, meaning you wasted precious seconds trying to attack something that isn't there anymore. You also have to think about if it's worth denying that creep for your opponent instead of harassing because you may be low on health. Both are a risk, but denying a few creeps here or there is better than being killed or running ( teleporting ) back to base to heal. So many more factors because of this one single element.2. I also know that DotA2 patches once every month, not sure about LoL.3. Honestly, if even a half decent player gets fed enough in a game. You've already lost. This goes for LoL and DotA2 though. DotA2 just seems a bit harder to actually carry your whole team if you get fed though. It requires a bit more team work even if you are much more powerful. Since a single well placed Ult from almost anyone can decimate an entire team ( I'M TALKING TO YOU NAGA SIREN! ). Where in LoL, a well placed Ult will help but isn't guaranteed to take out a whole team if they got too cocky.4.I really think this is one of my biggest problems with LoL too. I don't want to play for weeks trying to get the Hero I really want to play. Just to find out I don't like them... Honestly I feel like the whole setup for their heroes is a big money making scheme. While making the game have the illusion of being 'free to play'. At least DotA2 is straight forward; Give us your cash, here is everything you need, have fun.

1. I see, sounds like a new element to it, sounds interesting, but doesnt it mean if you snowball in lane you win much harder than in LoL? Which i guess is a good thing, but also maybe a bad thing?2. Every 2-4 weeks, whenever a new hero comes out, they tweak things.3. Ah, yeah, in LoL you do rely more on your teammates not being total retards, there is no 1v5ing. However to carry, its generally a case of getting fed in lane, and then ganking and feeding your other lanes, and taking global objectives. There are a few champs however, for example Jax, Irelia, Jayce - who when fed can carry harder than some of the earliergame champs like Cho'Gath, Renekton. Degree of difference, which is what makes soloqueueing a lot different to team ranked 5's. 4. There is a weekly rotation of 10 champs each week, but yeah, its kinda rough actually getting 6300 IP - which is basically 63 wins withhout the daily win bonus. And you get less than 100 IP per loss. Lot of gametime.

For Tynisa: Yes, you can ward in HoN, Dota2. In HoN, you can counterward. Oh, and the most important thing in HoN, your have a courier xD

I see, makes sense, i kinda guessed you would be able to, tbh. Counterwarding? Is that like placing a ward to clear an opponents wards? This be possible in LoL, with the right ward anyway.--I heard in a LoL MLG tournament the casters talking about Dota2, and that even their pro's admitted that LoL has more earlygame action - the map is smaller, and ganks happen a lot more often, as well as roaming between lanes?Only what i heard and can remember, was a while ago though.

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okay tried HoN, searched on skill level, got in a game with some rude kid telling everyone to uninstall? Other than that fun game

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I'll try to make a small guide... have an exam next week, so it will come after..

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Played LoL last night, really fun but hard tbh, since I'm new to it and suck, lmao.Will try HoN sometime. :)

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Add me first so I can give you some heads up.. if you have no idea what you're doing its gonna be a pain in the ass...

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Played LoL last night, really fun but hard tbh, since I'm new to it and suck, lmao.Will try HoN sometime. :)

If your on EU-W Fergal add xTynisa.I'll teach you everything i know, which tbh is a decent amount of knowledge. :-P




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