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For those of you who are clueless about builds, here's my view on ESO builds in one simple go-go-dancing post:

 

*Updated 12-16-'13*

 

Viable roles for each class for group combat--

1st role:

DK: Draconic Power- Tank (Reduce both physical and magical damage, root groups and self-heal from groups.)

NB: Assassination- Physical (Melee or Bow) DPS

Sorc: Storm Calling- Ranged Magical DPS

Temp: Restoring Light- Heals

 

2nd role:

DK: Earthen Heart- Support (Control enemies and Buff party)

NB: Shadow- Self-Survival

Sorc: Dark Magic- Healer+Control

Temp: Dawn's Wrath- Support (Increase party's DPS and make the melee enemies miss a lot or the casters unable to cast.)

 

3rd role:

DK: Ardent Flame- Close-range magic DPS

NB: Siphoning- Caster DPS

Sorc: Summoning- Pets help spread incoming dmg, you keep yourself and your pets alive while also doing a bit of DPS.

Temp: Aedric Spear- Ranged and close quarters DPS hybrid.

 

DK should be in heavy armor for Draconic Power- with 1H&Shield. Light Armor for Earthen Heart- with a Restoration staff for more control and support and light armor for Ardent Flame- with a Destruction staff for more DPS.

 

NB should be in medium armor for Assassination-  with a melee weapon and Shadow- with a bow. NB should be in light armor with either destro or resto staff depending on if you want more survival or more damage.

 

Sorc should be in light armor for all builds, using either a destro or resto staff. An exception to this would be a sneaky-healer build with medium armor and resto staff who uses Dark Exchange a lot.

 

Templar has the most diverse options. To heal they should use Resto staff & Light armor, to tank they should use Heavy armor & 1H/Shield, to DPS they should either use medium with 2H, DW, or Bow bars (2 out of these, 1 for each bar) for physical damage, and then use light armor and a destruction staff for magical damage.

 

If all of this is correct, which I think it is, then I would say that the best choice of armor (and therefore the best choice of weapons) is easy for each class.

 

Logically, it's as follows:

<strike>DK: Light armor, Destro-Ardent Flame + Resto-Earthen Heart.</strike>

 

NB: Medium Armor, DW-Assassination + Bow-Assassination.

 

Sorc: Light Armor, Destro-Storm Calling + Resto-Dark Magic.

 

Templar: Light Armor, Resto-Restoring Light + Destro-Dawn's Wrath.

 

The only problem with this, is that there aren't any tanks. DK make the best tanks, as they have a whole bar dedicated to it. So, instead of them playing as a close-range magic DPS or a support/healer class, I strongly would encourage all DK to be tanks. Looking at the numbers, they don't make that great of DPS or strictly support/healers anyway..either due to the need to be in melee range with light armor, or due to the lack of resources compared to other classes for casting MP based spells. Not only this, but there are already 2 classes who's best options are using Destro/Resto staves in light armor, so the gear will be much more expensive than Heavy--which will be the least desired gear.

 

Thusly, this is more logical for several reasons:

DK: Heavy armor, 1H&Shield-Draconic Power + 2H-Earthen Heart.

 

Of course this all changes when we're talking about soloing.

 

While soloing, the build choices are easier IMO:

Half DPS, and half control if medium or heavy armor -or- half heals if light armor.

Meaning the only good options are really:

 

DK: Heavy Armor + 2H with Earthen Heart and 2H abilities (Not ardent flame instead of 2H for DPS because they are spell power abilities rather than weapon power, also the MP ratio would be way off if bar#1 was still S&S.) (Since it's heavy armor--since you'll hopefully want to tank as a DK, resto-staff isn't as viable..so control+dps > heals+dps because of armor synergy.)

 

NB: Medium Armor + Bow with Shadow and Bow abilities. (Not Siphoning instead of Shadow, because they are spell power not weapon power and would do such low damage that it's not worth it.) (Because it's medium armor, resto staff isn't a good choice--you want that melee weapon for synergies--and this means that heals+dps isn't an option.)

 

Sorc: Light Armor + Resto staff with Summoner and Resto abilities. (Dark Magic with a Destro staff would be a good alternative to Summoning+Resto staff, if you prefer damage + control more than damage + healing.)

 

Temp: Light Armor + Destro staff with both Aedric Spear and Restoring light abilities. (Because templars have class-heals, you can just use that bar instead of a resto staff to fulfill the healing part of the DPS+Healing combo. Another option would be to use Aedric Spear + Dawn's Wrath, still with a destro staff, to control+dps instead of heal+dps.)

 

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As far as Ultimates go, here's a really over-simplified breakdown of the ultimates:

 

As far as Ults go, like irons said it really depends on situations. I won't go into too much detail but this is basically the breakdown that I see:

 

Nova, DK Standard, Storm Atronarch, and Soul Shred are probably the best for most AOE situations.

 

Magma Armor, Negate Magic, Nova or Rite of Passage for defense.

 

Dragon Leap, Death Stroke, Overload, and Consuming Darkness are all good for specific things, Dragon Leap is one of my favorites for breaching keeps and knocking people off keep walls.

 

I also really like Highborn and Hitskin because they're extremely simple.

Summon Bear/Ancestral Guardian are amazing for PVE. Battlecry/Berserker Rage/Powercharge are really good.

 

Eye of Fear and Dragonskin I'm undecided on, they will either be really good... or not ever worth taking IMO.

 

Meteor and Soul Strike seem good for Spell Power builds that want a Dragon Leap that they don't need to be in the frey with, or a nice single-target damage/snare.

 

I LOVE Barrier as a healer/support character (the passive you get from it is nice as well.) and War Horn is also a top-notch group support ability. I think in any well-functioning group for PVP there should be at least 1 person with War Horn and 1 person with Barrier.

 

Dawnbreaker's probably only good for Daedra PVE.

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Cheers. :)



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I've been putting off making an actual build since there are so many combinations from the info available.  Here is what I came up with for a sorc with a ton of defensive abilities that will have enough mana cost reduction/regeneration to spam mages fury and lightning splash.  I put some thoughts at the end as well
 
Breton Sorc w/ 7 light armor pieces
HP:20 points
ST:0
MP:30 points
 
Ultimate:
Meteor - unlocks rank 8
instant - 28m range - 150 ultimate - no cooldown
deals 14 fire damage
deals 50% to enemies within 5m
knocks enemies back 800cm
 
Bar 1
Destro Staff
Actives:
 
Mages Fury – unlocks rank 1
instant – 28m range – 36 magicka – no cooldown
deals 6 shock damage
enemies below 20% health take 18 shock damage
 
Lightning Splash – unlocks rank 24
instant – 28m range / 4m radius – 52 magicka
leaves a pool of lightning for 5s that deals 5 shock damage every 1s
an ally in the area may activate conduit, instantly shocking enemies for 15 shock damage
 
Repulse – unlocks rank 4
instant – 5m radius – 52 magicka – no cooldown
nearby enemies are knocked back 6m and snared 45% for 4s
 
Lightning Form – unlocks rank 50
instant – self – 56 magicka – no cooldown
For 6s
take 40% less damage
deal 2 shock damage to nearby enemies every 1s
 
Encase – unlocks rank 1
instant – 15m radius – 80 magicka – no cooldown
immobilize enemies in front of you for 4.5 seconds
 
Bar 2
Resto Staff
Actives:
 
Regeneration – unlocks rank 1
instance – 15m radius – 40 magicka – no cooldown
- heal nearby ally for 5
- heal for an additional 20 over 20s
 
Surge – unlocks rank 34
instant – self – 80 magicka – no cooldown
For 17s
increase power by 3
 
Steadfast Ward - unlocks rank 10
instant - self - 80 magicka - no cooldown
absorbs up to 120 damage from the next incoming attack
last 30s
 
Conjured Ward – unlocks rank 50
instant – 20m radius – 60 magicka – no cooldown
create a 24 point damage shield on self and summoned creatures for 20 seconds
absorbs 75% of damage taken
 
Bolt Escape – unlocks rank 4
instant – self – 64 magicka – no cooldown
stuns nearby enemies for 1.5s
teleport forward 15m
 
Passive synergies:
 
Prodigy(Light Armor) + Exploitation(Daedric Summonning) = +25% crit chance on enemies affected by daedric magic(encase and repulse)
Magicka Master(breton) + Evocation(LA) + Unholy knowledge(Daedric Summoning) = 29% Spell 
cost reduction and 39% spell cost reduction on lightning spells with expert mage on storm calling tree!
Spell Resistance(breton) + Spell Warding(LA) = +120 Spell Resistance
Daedric Protection = +20% health regen while using resto bar on defence
Capacitor(storm calling) + Recovery (LA) = +38% mana regen
Concentraion(LA) + Cycle of Life(Resto) + Potency(Mages Guild) = +13%-22% extra spell damage
Restoration Master (resto) + Potency (mages Guild) = +10% extra heal
 
The philosophy behind this build would be to maximize the amount of DPS i'm able to do by
minimizing the amount of kiting i have to do.  I use my large mana pool to stick buffs and 
HOTs on myself (bar 2 resto staff) at the beginning of combat and then switch to bar 1 (destro staff)
to unload cheap offensive spells on them and by then my ultimate will hopefully be high when my mana
is low so I can finish them off with a few meteors.  Switch back to bar 2 if i need to heal and 
protect myself.  I have a lot of mana sinks here but with the huge spell cost reduction huge mana regen i can hopefully keep my mana high enough to have spells like lightning form up all the time for
damage mitigation.  If i am having extra mana in combat I would maybe include bound armor in bar 1 or
the breton ulti(dragon skin) which is like a mana shield i think, instead of meteor.
 
This build might be weak to CC but maybe spell resistance counters some of that effect? 
 
I put destruction staff for bar 1 since it seems like a natural fit and the status effects of the heavy attacks mightcome in handy but honestly none of the skills seemed better that the Sorceror skills and the passives dont synergize at all so i don't even know if i would put any points in it... At that point just using a shield might be better since it would 1: Add to the potency of my existing light armor passives as another LA piece and 2: Increase my armor and addextra enchantment bonuses


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"Elitist Builds" really???

 

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This build might be weak to CC but maybe spell resistance counters some of that effect?

No spell resistance won't help you against CC but you can use your stamina to break stuns

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I'm not to sure about the stats.

My main focus is to have enough resources so I don't ran out of stamina/magicka in the middle of fights.

 

Class: Dragonknight

Race: Redguard

Armor: Heavy

Weapons:

Main: 2Handed Sword

Off: Sword & Shield

Stats:

HP: 20

ST: 20

MA: 9

Entchaments:

Armor:

  Power on pieces were possible (currently known 2)

  HP reg on the rest (8)

Weapons:

  2Handed: Lifesteel or Power

  Sword: Lifesteal or Power

  Shield: Shield (dmg Shield)

 

 

HotBar 1: (2Handed)

 

Reverse Slash

Critical Charge

Inferno

Momentum

Immvoveable

 

Ultimate: Magma Armor

 

 

HotBar 2: (Sword/Shield)

 

Low Slash

Shield Charge

Ash Cloud

Defensive Posture

Obsidian Shield

 

Ultimate: Battler Standard

 

 

The idea of this build is that with the high HP reg plus the dmg reduction through heavy armor, Obsidian Shield and immoveable that you will be tanky as hell while hitting really hard. Both Hotbars have there gab closer and their stamina based spam dps skill. Inferno on Hotbar1 is used to snare people and take good use of your magicka.



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"Elitist Builds" really???

 

Agree the title is a bit elitist

 

@irons I might add dragon blood on your second bar as a self heal and major added HP rejen.  Also acts as a mana sink when ash cloud isn't relevant.  Dark talons might also be really good for your first bar and might be better than inferno which adds damage but isn't really synergistic with anything.

 

I like immovable a lot I think with that and crit charge it would be hard to stop you from coming at them.

 

You may want to add spell resist to armor in addition to hp regen especially for your second bar



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Agree the title is a bit elitist

 

@irons I might add dragon blood on your second bar as a self heal and major added HP rejen.  Also acts as a mana sink when ash cloud isn't relevant.  Dark talons might also be really good for your first bar and might be better than inferno which adds damage but isn't really synergistic with anything.

 

I like immovable a lot I think with that and crit charge it would be hard to stop you from coming at them.

 

You may want to add spell resist to armor in addition to hp regen especially for your second bar

I used to have Dragon Blood in my builds but I allways over read that it only heals for 25% of your missing health, that's why i kicked it out.

Dark Talon is nice but with Inferno I can use my magicka better and it also is my slow on that hotbar through the passive warmth.

Plus with that build I want either to kill my opponent or make him to run away.

 

I don't think that spell restistance is needed, as a DK I allready have more spell resist than others plus from what we know armor also helps agianst magic dmg. Plus the dmg reduction works also against magic dmg. So I really think that I will be fine without adding spell resist.



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Do you happen to know if there is a minimum number of heavy armor pieces you have to be wearing to use immovable? It seems like such a strong ability that having my sorc wear a piece or two of heavy armor just to use that might be worth it.  It would be my only stamina ability so i might be able to keep it up most of the time



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Oh yes I didn't see that inferno works with the warmth passive so well.  That seems really strong



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Do you happen to know if there is a minimum number of heavy armor pieces you have to be wearing to use immovable? It seems like such a strong ability that having my sorc wear a piece or two of heavy armor just to use that might be worth it.  It would be my only stamina ability so i might be able to keep it up most of the time

That's something many are wondering.

My personal guess would be 5+ pieces, but who knows.



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That's something many are wondering.

My personal guess would be 5+ pieces, but who knows.

 

My guess would be 5+ as well.

 

Do you happen to know if there is a minimum number of heavy armor pieces you have to be wearing to use immovable? It seems like such a strong ability that having my sorc wear a piece or two of heavy armor just to use that might be worth it.  It would be my only stamina ability so i might be able to keep it up most of the time

 

I was thinking if I was playing a sorce I'd still use 5 Heavy and just 2 Light.

 

 

"Elitist Builds" really???

 

-------------------------------

This build might be weak to CC but maybe spell resistance counters some of that effect?

No spell resistance won't help you against CC but you can use your stamina to break stuns

-------------------------------

 

I'm not to sure about the stats.

My main focus is to have enough resources so I don't ran out of stamina/magicka in the middle of fights.

 

Class: Dragonknight

Race: Redguard

Armor: Heavy

Weapons:

Main: 2Handed Sword

Off: Sword & Shield

Stats:

HP: 20

ST: 20

MA: 9

Entchaments:

Armor:

  Power on pieces were possible (currently known 2)

  HP reg on the rest (8)

Weapons:

  2Handed: Lifesteel or Power

  Sword: Lifesteal or Power

  Shield: Shield (dmg Shield)

 

 

HotBar 1: (2Handed)

 

Reverse Slash

Critical Charge

Inferno

Momentum

Immvoveable

 

Ultimate: Magma Armor

 

 

HotBar 2: (Sword/Shield)

 

Low Slash

Shield Charge

Ash Cloud

Defensive Posture

Obsidian Shield

 

Ultimate: Battler Standard

 

 

The idea of this build is that with the high HP reg plus the dmg reduction through heavy armor, Obsidian Shield and immoveable that you will be tanky as hell while hitting really hard. Both Hotbars have there gab closer and their stamina based spam dps skill. Inferno on Hotbar1 is used to snare people and take good use of your magicka.

 

Why are you going with 2H instead of DW for your damage? DW seems a lot better for quick kills, stronger in both single-target and the AOE is spammable. I would go DW for killing easy things, but also for Hidden Blade to start kiting a single mob. I'm sure there'll be some fights where you need to kite the target as a group while killing it, so you'll want at least one ranged slow that you can spam-the interrupt's nice too.

 

On your S&S bar-- definitely use something from Draconic Power. Burning Heart (+12% healing received) is way too good to pass up. I'd suggest swapping Obsidian Shield for Spiked Armor, I don't think Obsidian Shield will stay on long enough to be that great except for the group-support, but if you're a good tank then you shouldn't need to support the group that much anyway--leave that to the healers.

For PVE are you going to swap Low Slash with Puncture for the Taunt, and just keep Ash Field up for the dodge? I think you'll still be alright even if you don't have quite as much mitigation -- It'll allow the healer to focus more on you anyway, so it'll make dungeons go way smoother even if you are taking a tad more damage.

 

 

Agree the title is a bit elitist

 

@irons I might add dragon blood on your second bar as a self heal and major added HP rejen.  Also acts as a mana sink when ash cloud isn't relevant.  Dark talons might also be really good for your first bar and might be better than inferno which adds damage but isn't really synergistic with anything.

 

I like immovable a lot I think with that and crit charge it would be hard to stop you from coming at them.

 

You may want to add spell resist to armor in addition to hp regen especially for your second bar

 

Elitists FTW! :)

 

 

 

I've been putting off making an actual build since there are so many combinations from the info available.  Here is what I came up with for a sorc with a ton of defensive abilities that will have enough mana cost reduction/regeneration to spam mages fury and lightning splash.  I put some thoughts at the end as well
 
Breton Sorc w/ 7 light armor pieces
HP:20 points
ST:0
MP:30 points
 
Ultimate:
Meteor - unlocks rank 8
instant - 28m range - 150 ultimate - no cooldown
deals 14 fire damage
deals 50% to enemies within 5m
knocks enemies back 800cm
 
Bar 1
Destro Staff
Actives:
 
Mages Fury – unlocks rank 1
instant – 28m range – 36 magicka – no cooldown
deals 6 shock damage
enemies below 20% health take 18 shock damage
 
Lightning Splash – unlocks rank 24
instant – 28m range / 4m radius – 52 magicka
leaves a pool of lightning for 5s that deals 5 shock damage every 1s
an ally in the area may activate conduit, instantly shocking enemies for 15 shock damage
 
Repulse – unlocks rank 4
instant – 5m radius – 52 magicka – no cooldown
nearby enemies are knocked back 6m and snared 45% for 4s
 
Lightning Form – unlocks rank 50
instant – self – 56 magicka – no cooldown
For 6s
take 40% less damage
deal 2 shock damage to nearby enemies every 1s
 
Encase – unlocks rank 1
instant – 15m radius – 80 magicka – no cooldown
immobilize enemies in front of you for 4.5 seconds
 
Bar 2
Resto Staff
Actives:
 
Regeneration – unlocks rank 1
instance – 15m radius – 40 magicka – no cooldown
- heal nearby ally for 5
- heal for an additional 20 over 20s
 
Surge – unlocks rank 34
instant – self – 80 magicka – no cooldown
For 17s
increase power by 3
 
Steadfast Ward - unlocks rank 10
instant - self - 80 magicka - no cooldown
absorbs up to 120 damage from the next incoming attack
last 30s
 
Conjured Ward – unlocks rank 50
instant – 20m radius – 60 magicka – no cooldown
create a 24 point damage shield on self and summoned creatures for 20 seconds
absorbs 75% of damage taken
 
Bolt Escape – unlocks rank 4
instant – self – 64 magicka – no cooldown
stuns nearby enemies for 1.5s
teleport forward 15m
 
Passive synergies:
 
Prodigy(Light Armor) + Exploitation(Daedric Summonning) = +25% crit chance on enemies affected by daedric magic(encase and repulse)
Magicka Master(breton) + Evocation(LA) + Unholy knowledge(Daedric Summoning) = 29% Spell 
cost reduction and 39% spell cost reduction on lightning spells with expert mage on storm calling tree!
Spell Resistance(breton) + Spell Warding(LA) = +120 Spell Resistance
Daedric Protection = +20% health regen while using resto bar on defence
Capacitor(storm calling) + Recovery (LA) = +38% mana regen
Concentraion(LA) + Cycle of Life(Resto) + Potency(Mages Guild) = +13%-22% extra spell damage
Restoration Master (resto) + Potency (mages Guild) = +10% extra heal
 
The philosophy behind this build would be to maximize the amount of DPS i'm able to do by
minimizing the amount of kiting i have to do.  I use my large mana pool to stick buffs and 
HOTs on myself (bar 2 resto staff) at the beginning of combat and then switch to bar 1 (destro staff)
to unload cheap offensive spells on them and by then my ultimate will hopefully be high when my mana
is low so I can finish them off with a few meteors.  Switch back to bar 2 if i need to heal and 
protect myself.  I have a lot of mana sinks here but with the huge spell cost reduction huge mana regen i can hopefully keep my mana high enough to have spells like lightning form up all the time for
damage mitigation.  If i am having extra mana in combat I would maybe include bound armor in bar 1 or
the breton ulti(dragon skin) which is like a mana shield i think, instead of meteor.
 
This build might be weak to CC but maybe spell resistance counters some of that effect? 
 
I put destruction staff for bar 1 since it seems like a natural fit and the status effects of the heavy attacks mightcome in handy but honestly none of the skills seemed better that the Sorceror skills and the passives dont synergize at all so i don't even know if i would put any points in it... At that point just using a shield might be better since it would 1: Add to the potency of my existing light armor passives as another LA piece and 2: Increase my armor and addextra enchantment bonuses

 

 

First thing I noticed is that you don't have Dark Exchange. In a build that is highly MP based and also doesn't use any ST on actives, I'd take Dark Exchange for sure. Even if you cast it for one second to get 23% MP/HP and then you move/cast something else (canceling the cast) it could save your ass in so many ways it's amazing.

 

Mage's Fury isn't what you think it is anymore, it doesn't work like a ranged Assassin's Blade anymore--

Instant28m range36 Magicka(lvl 50 - 252 magicka)

– deals 6(123) shock dmg- explode for 18(310) shock dmg if the target falls below 20% health within 4sec- explosion deal 40% of its initial damage to enemies within 4m of the target

 

It's still good, but you can't spam it on single-targets anymore. It's actually better now, but it's harder to use--and actually pretty similar to Daedric Curse except you can spam this (since you can only have 1 curse up at a time). So, this probably upsets your whole build..but remember that you'll do a good amount of damage with light/heavy attacks with your destro staff--so I wouldn't worry about a direct damage active ability so much.

 

I actually really like your build, I can see it being really functional in a lot of situations, you're just going to have a lot of trouble on things that can disable you (so taking immovable would be an epic fix).

 

PS- What's your 2nd Ult. going to be?



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Why are you going with 2H instead of DW for your damage? DW seems a lot better for quick kills, stronger in both single-target and the AOE is spammable. I would go DW for killing easy things, but also for Hidden Blade to start kiting a single mob. I'm sure there'll be some fights where you need to kite the target as a group while killing it, so you'll want at least one ranged slow that you can spam-the interrupt's nice too.

 

On your S&S bar-- definitely use something from Draconic Power. Burning Heart (+12% healing received) is way too good to pass up. I'd suggest swapping Obsidian Shield for Spiked Armor, I don't think Obsidian Shield will stay on long enough to be that great except for the group-support, but if you're a good tank then you shouldn't need to support the group that much anyway--leave that to the healers.

For PVE are you going to swap Low Slash with Puncture for the Taunt, and just keep Ash Field up for the dodge? I think you'll still be alright even if you don't have quite as much mitigation -- It'll allow the healer to focus more on you anyway, so it'll make dungeons go way smoother even if you are taking a tad more damage.

I think that while DW will deal more dmg overtime that 2H is just more bursty. Than I get AoE on a passive with it and the most important point it has a gab closer + I love Momentum.

 

Yeah I'm also not to sure about obsidian shield the 5% stamina is nice plus I get more ultimate points but I guess that's something I will have to test when the game launches.

 

 

For PvE I either swap Shield Charge or Low Slash for Puncture and Reverse Slash for Cleave



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Is this is the accurate tooltip? Defensive Posture: Activated: [color=rgb(204,204,204);font-family:'Open Sans', sans-serif;font-size:13px;]Reflects the next spell projectile back to the attacker. While slotted, increases the effectiveness of block, and reduces the Stamina cost of blocking.[/color]

 

TF sucks, but I just thought I'd ask since this was released more recently than the tooltips on here (and it doesn't make sense to me to have a slotted ability with no active).

 

 http://tamrielfoundr...skill-overview/

 

 

ps- I am working on getting my build put up on the first post... I'll let you know when I do, I'm fixing up 6 different builds that I think all have amazing potential. So far I'm happy with all the numbers and such for enchants/everything on only 2 of them. XD



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First thing I noticed is that you don't have Dark Exchange. In a build that is highly MP based and also doesn't use any ST on actives, I'd take Dark Exchange for sure. Even if you cast it for one second to get 23% MP/HP and then you move/cast something else (canceling the cast) it could save your ass in so many ways it's amazing. Mage's Fury isn't what you think it is anymore, it doesn't work like a ranged Assassin's Blade anymore--Instant28m range36 Magicka(lvl 50 - 252 magicka)– deals 6(123) shock dmg- explode for 18(310) shock dmg if the target falls below 20% health within 4sec- explosion deal 40% of its initial damage to enemies within 4m of the target It's still good, but you can't spam it on single-targets anymore. It's actually better now, but it's harder to use--and actually pretty similar to Daedric Curse except you can spam this (since you can only have 1 curse up at a time). So, this probably upsets your whole build..but remember that you'll do a good amount of damage with light/heavy attacks with your destro staff--so I wouldn't worry about a direct damage active ability so much. I actually really like your build, I can see it being really functional in a lot of situations, you're just going to have a lot of trouble on things that can disable you (so taking immovable would be an epic fix). PS- What's your 2nd Ult. going to be?

 Thinking about the cc weakness and some of the other things you pointed out  (thanks for the mages fury update btw) i threw together this revised version.  Without all the light armor my castiing costs will be higher and my mana regen will be lower so I'll have to rely on high max mana and dark exchange to replenish.  If i can keep up lightning form and immovable much of the time while dealing damage that would be awesome for survivability as well as having extra armor from wearing heavy pieces.  I'd want to focus most/all of my armor enchantments towards damage since my goal is still dps and i don't want to turn into just a bad tank.  Second ult i decided on storm atronach because when i've got my second bar up i'll probably be running around headless chicken  style buffing and healing so it'd be good to have something  i can drop and forget about or run around for protection.  Negate obv looks awesome but it seems like it might be too expensive and situational to live up to that Breton Sorc w/ 2 light armor pieces 5 heavy armor piecesHP:20 pointsST:0MP:30 points Bar 1Destro StaffActives:Force ShockMages Fury (updated version)Encase Lightning Form ImmovableUlt: Meteor Bar 2Resto StaffActives:Regeneration Surge Conjured Ward Dark ExchangeBolt Escape Ult: Storm Atronach



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irons

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Is this is the accurate tooltip? Defensive Posture: Activated: [color=#cccccc;]Reflects the next spell projectile back to the attacker. While slotted, increases the effectiveness of block, and reduces the Stamina cost of blocking.[/size][/color]
 
TF sucks, but I just thought I'd ask since this was released more recently than the tooltips on here (and it doesn't make sense to me to have a slotted ability with no active).
 
 http://tamrielfoundr...skill-overview/
 
 
ps- I am working on getting my build put up on the first post... I'll let you know when I do, I'm fixing up 6 different builds that I think all have amazing potential. So far I'm happy with all the numbers and such for enchants/everything on only 2 of them. XD

I also think that's what that skill currently does. I had in mind that it would reflect the next attack but I think that skill might change again until launch.
The thing is the blocking cost is allready reduced by 46% too passives while blocking is improved by 10% and for projectiles and for range attacks it's improved by another 15%.
So i might just switch it for Dark Talon (more CC) or for Inferno (more Dmg).

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Mage's Fury isn't what you think it is anymore, it doesn't work like a ranged Assassin's Blade anymore--

Instant28m range36 Magicka(lvl 50 - 252 magicka)

– deals 6(123) shock dmg- explode for 18(310) shock dmg if the target falls below 20% health within 4sec- explosion deal 40% of its initial damage to enemies within 4m of the target

 

It's still good, but you can't spam it on single-targets anymore. It's actually better now, but it's harder to use--and actually pretty similar to Daedric Curse except you can spam this (since you can only have 1 curse up at a time). So, this probably upsets your whole build..but remember that you'll do a good amount of damage with light/heavy attacks with your destro staff--so I wouldn't worry about a direct damage active ability so much

 

You mentioned that "you'll do a good amount of damage with light/heavy attacks with your destro staff..." -- are we in possession of the exact damage numbers for those attacks, so that we can compare them to the 123 single target damage for Mage's Fury (this ignores the other effect of Mage's Fury, giving us a guaranteed 123 single target damage amount per cast as a minimum).

 

I'm not clear how we can assume that a direct damage active ability such as Mage's Fury is inferior to light/heavy attacks for dps calculations until we know what the exact light/heavy damage numbers are.



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irons

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You mentioned that "you'll do a good amount of damage with light/heavy attacks with your destro staff..." -- are we in possession of the exact damage numbers for those attacks, so that we can compare them to the 123 single target damage for Mage's Fury (this ignores the other effect of Mage's Fury, giving us a guaranteed 123 single target damage amount per cast as a minimum). I'm not clear how we can assume that a direct damage active ability such as Mage's Fury is inferior to light/heavy attacks for dps calculations until we know what the exact light/heavy damage numbers are.

If we take a look at the quakecon video, it's fair to say that basic attacks deal way less dmg than abilities.




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