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#46
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I have seen many players which played 80+ hours a week but still where noobs on the other hand their are Top players who only play a few hours a week.To say that Top players are allways no-lifer is a bit harsh.

 

Depends on the game, if there's a lot of grinding then no-life is a requirement. Look at something like Runescape..(Unless you bot).

 

EDIT: It also must be a gear-based game like WoW. Sure, some top players can overcome things but in most situations an overgeared player wins. There's not THAT much skill in any modern game until very high level of play. They have to make it so that everyone can play. XD



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Word! I get that it's more realistic, and it's good for balancing PVP... but what if they did that in PVE? You level up your character, get awesome gear, make the perfect build for a fight..then every end-game dungeon is just playing chess? XD

 

I agree, top players are always no-lifers, but the very top (emperor status) have got to be good on top of that.

 

(I don't really get heated on the internet. We're good! lol)

 

Thanks. And, nah, you've seen the Quakecon video. What you need is fighting skill and strong teamwork. And maybe maxed-out builds and perfect timing on master dungeons.

 

I think it'd be safe to assume that chess-tactics would only matter in Cyrodiil where investing in siege weapons and keep upgrades, rallying hundreds, predicting enemy responses, temporary alliance cooperation and betrayal would come into play.

 

we should make an ebon heart pact guild francis.

 

Yeah, I've been thinking, but I haven't got a clear idea in mind. The plan so far is to happily tread through my adventures in ESO, eventually crossing paths with other individual wanderers and colorful characters with whom I could form a merry band with, and, eventually, a guild.

 

But before I got to that conclusion, I have tried other means. Lem'me explain:

 

Two months ago, I was considering using Tamriel Foundry as a base of operations, but then I found that I liked Elder Souls better, and I realized I wanted a more secluded ESO community site than the most popular one. (Plus, unlike those pussies, you guys had beta leaks.) So, here I am.

 

About whether I want to join a guild or make one is something I haven't decided on. I mean, I thought I'd just join the Elder Souls Official Guild with a fuzzy idea of what to expect since it was labeled alliance-unclassified, but I've since realized that David, along with Blake, the other leader, would most probably play as damn dirty felines. Which means they'll be in the dominion.

Which means I still need a guild to call my own...

 

Now, do I want to join a guild, start one, or do I do the traveling thing I mentioned?

If more people would be willing to make a guild with us, I might consider making one.

But if not, I'll do it the old-fashioned way-- with imaginary traveling and fateful encounters.



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lol :teehee:



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Two months ago, I was considering using Tamriel Foundry as a base of operations, but then I found that I liked Elder Souls better, and I realized I wanted a more secluded ESO community site than the most popular one. (Plus, unlike those pussies, you guys had beta leaks.) So, here I am.
 
+1It's not just the beta leaks, its more general knowledge of mmo when it comes to theorycrafting I like about this forum.
 
On the Topic of no-lifer: Most top players i encountered in several AAA mmos were actually university students with a lot of time to spare. Or IT folk who were working from home.I rarely met unemployed people who invested much time and could play well at the same time.


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+1It's not just the beta leaks, its more general knowledge of mmo when it comes to theorycrafting I like about this forum.
 
On the Topic of no-lifer: Most top players i encountered in several AAA mmos were actually university students with a lot of time to spare. Or IT folk who were working from home.I rarely met unemployed people who invested much time and could play well at the same time.

 

 

Ahh, okay.. we're almost talking about two different things right now. There's a big difference between no-lifers (people with no social life besides through the internet--my view) and people who are idiots who don't even try to contribute to society at the same time as playing games. :P  Some people are game-dumb and can't be fixed no matter how much they try. But, if the university students and IT folk are using their spare time to play games, even though they're functional members of society, they still don't really have a life by non-gamer standards! Haha

 

I mean average gamers who want to be good need to invest time, game-dumb people can't ever be good, game-smart people will always be good.. Yeah, definitely, but the top dogs are still always the game-smart people who also invest huge amounts of time to the game they are competing in.



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Well said.

 

Also, I just realized, do we have any means of translating the japanese commentary on the video of this thread? Any japanese members? We might find out something worthwhile.



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Philosophy- STRAIGHT THROUGH TH HEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT



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Okay... Ease up on those 'roids, Muscle.



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Nice find.

 

 

 

interesting videothe player didn't spend points on stamina but still had over 1000 stamina. That chances quite a few things for me.

 

 

You start with 100 in each attribute and you gain 20 in each attribute for each level.

By level 3 you will have 140 in each attribute. By level 50 you should have have 1080 in each attribute.

 

In the video he have 1143 Stamina without spending points in it.

Maybe he got leather armor passives that drive it up (but i think medium only give you stamina regen, not stamina pool)

enchantments...?

pvp bonus for holding pvp objectives...?

do armor and weapons have attribute bonus in eos...?

 

 

You also get 1 attribute point to spend per level (after the first) that give you another 10.

By level 3 you can have 190, 140, 140 or 150, 150, 150 or any combination in between.

By level 50 you should will have 490 spare points to allocate.

 

 

That mean the bulk of your attributes will come from level and only a minority will be from actual allocation. You can basically spend all your points to increase ONE attribute up to 50% (or 45.3% rather). I have no idea how much extra you can get from armor & weapons plus enchantments / armor smith / weapon smith - if any.... 

 

Having said that... It seem as if your resources (all of them) will drop VERY FAST and regenerate pretty fast as well (even mid combat). Only slotting abilities fueled by stamina (dual wield, two hand, bow, one hand and shield) will be gimping yourself big time. It seem as if you want to utilize both Stamina and Magicka. Only slotting abilities fuled by magicka (class line abilities, destruction staff, restoration staff) is not as bad as you can still utilize stamina for dodge, sprint, block etc... But I think you would want to have at least one spammable ability fueled by stamina in order to double dip into both resources (that mean you probably would want to have one of dual wield, two hand, bow or one hand and shield as at least one of your weapon switch selections).

 

1143 is pretty close to 1080. 

- point is still that you get the vast majority of attribute points from level alone.

This make it easy to switch roles. 

Just dress up in plate. Grab a shield. Replace your 5 actives with shield skills. Bang. You are now a tank.

Dress up in cloth. Grab a resto staff. Replace your 5 actives with resto staff skills. You are now a healer.

 

 

 

Well said.

 

Also, I just realized, do we have any means of translating the japanese commentary on the video of this thread? Any japanese members? We might find out something worthwhile.

(It is Chinese, not Japanese)



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(It is Chineese, not Japanease)

 

Oh, Jesus. I can't believe I got that wrong. And I'm one-fourth Chinese myself...

-- Ah, got used to Japanese being predominant on the internet, and China being censored...

 

Still, you misspelled both of them. Heh, so we're even, you son of a bitch.

 

Nice analysis, by the way.






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