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560 armor is about how much armor full Light armor will give you. With 560 armor + Light I think it'll be about = to heavy. This is just speculation.

 

Any reason for going Light instead of Heavy Armor + Bound Armor? With Dark Exchange, regen doesn't matter much, so you'll have 21% more effective MP due to spells being 21% cheaper..but compared to what? As a tank you'll need to measure how often you can keep up your mitigation abilities compared to keeping them up with light armor on and see which one grants you the most mitigation..so it's not really just about how much mitigation the armor itself gives.

For a non-dragon knight most [PvE] tank and mitigation abilities are fueled by stamina anyway. There might be one or two tankish class abilities (that cost Magicka) but for a sorcery using bound armor i would probably just dress up in heavy armor, one hand and shield and slot 4 abilities from one hand and shield, heavy armor (and possible wear one piece of medium armor to use the evade active skill and/or one piece of light armor for the spellresist active skill). Except for bound armor the rest will only cost stamina...

By level 50 you will have over 1000 stamina without placing a single point into it (compared to maybe 1500 if you place every single attribute point into an attribute). The difference is not that huge tbh.... 

also remember that all it takes to become a healer (for example) is to dress up in light armor, stay back, wield a restoration staff and use all 5 skills from the restoration staff on your hot bar. you don't have to be a templar for that.

being a templar simply opens up more healing options. like wielding a two handed sword and dealing dps while using your 12m pbaoe templar heals and templar buffs. having more options is never a bad thing so really dedicated healers will probably pick templars (and restoration staff passives stack with templar actives so a really dedicated templar will probably wield a restoration staff)

Also, most of your attribute pools come from the points you automatically get when you level up (*not* the extra attribute points that you are free to distribute each time you level up). So even if your focus is stamina or health you can still be a good healer (but you might have a magicka pool that is 66% the size of someone that placed all his points into magicka).

I don't think Aldmeri Dominion will lack healers. A vast majority of all Altmer will sink attribute points into magicka to become casters and they will all be very viable healers by just picking up a restoration staff - no matter what their original class selection is.... however, I think that aldmeri dominion will seriously lack tanks. Most people that really like to play a tank will pick Orsimer in the dagger fall covernant or either Argonian or Nord in the Ebonheart Pact. So if you want to be a tank and not having to worry about so much competition then I think Almeri Dominion is the faction to be in. Sinking attributes into health. Possible picking dragon knight as class. Wielding sword n' board. You will be very popular in that faction =)

If you plan on playing a PvE tank and like to feel a bit unique and important; then you should *seriously* consider rolling in the Aldmeri Dominion. My guess is that they will have a serious lack of tanks. A vast majority of all Altmers will be light armor casters, the majority of all bosmer will go archery and the majority of all khajiit will be sneaky melee dps. On the PvE side you don't compete with races from the other factions anyway. Dungeons will be locked and tuned to one faction only...

The Ebonheart Pact have two tank options (Argonian and Nord) and Daggerfall have one (Orsimer). 

All three factions will probably have healers (Altmer, Argonians and Brenton) - although Argonians does not really make better healers once restoration staff is maxed out (still, the XP bonus to restoration staff will bring healers to the faction). Argonians might actually make great templars (as they have mostly 12m pbaoe heals and buffs) since they on average will be closer to the action and might need to self heal now and then (taking advantage of that healing received buff).

did you expand my spoilers?

i covered quite a few in there....

edit

removed the big spoiler as it might be more confusing than anything. 

important thing is david have the information so he can add it to the db.

as for your question:

ultimate at class skill line rank 12

actives at class skill line rank 1, 4, 24, 34 and 50

passives at class skill line rank 8, 19, 29 and 39

this might or might not be accurate for all classes and class skill line, but it was accurate for at least some class skill lines in the videos i've seen so far.

the above might or might not also change before release.

here might be some useful stuff. mostly from the various leaked videos from the september build.

edit: this list will eventually be part of the database instead. for now i'll remove it to avoid confusion. 

Would it be to much to ask , if you could include (if known) what levels we get each skill; Later you could input what level the morph come at at?I know most of the best skills are level 50, so would I assume that the morphs for these would come when we are doing 50+ and 50++ content?I guess I am trying to use your table as a ESO skill building flow, sweet job!

For example, the templar ability Sun Shield from the Aedric Spear line is opened up when you leveled up theAedric Spear line to rank 50. At that point you can spend a skill point to unlock it. If you have active skills from the Aedric Spear line on your hot-bar you will level the Aedric Spear line. If you place your Sun Shield I on your hot bar it will level up. Once your Sun Shield reach rank V you get the option to morph it.It is the same for weapon, armor and racial skill lines.You level weapon skill lines by wielding the weapon.You level armor skill lines by wearing armor of that type.Example from Dragon Knight Ardent Flame skill line:Fiery Reach {ACTIVE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 1 (open to spend a skill point when you start the game)Searing Strike {ACTIVE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 4Kindling {PASSIVE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 8Darknight Standard {ULTIMATE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 12Warmth {PASSIVE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 19Fiery Breath {ACTIVE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 24Searing Heat {PASSIVE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 29Lava Whip {ACTIVE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 34World in Flame {PASSIVE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 39Inferno {ACTIVE} unlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 50Dragon Knight Draconic Power skill line:Spiked Armor {ACTIVE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 1 (open to spend a skill point when you start the game)Dark Talons {ACTIVE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 4Iron Skin {PASSIVE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 8Dragon Leap {ULTIMTAE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 12Burning Heart {PASSIVE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 19Dragon Blood {ACTIVE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 24Elder Dragon {PASSIVE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 29Reflective Scale {ACTIVE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 34Scared Armor {PASSIVE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 39Inhale {ACTIVE} unlocked at Draconic Power Rank 50You can have a level 50 CHARACTER dragon knight with only rank 1 in ardent flame and draconic power SKILL LINES (because the character never slot his active hot bar with any skills from the two skill lines).If you never spend a skill point on Fiery Reach then you don't have a skill from the Ardent Flame on your hot bar and will never advance it.

Morph (morph cost 1 skill point and you do it at skill rank V, I actually think your skill will be stuck at 4.99 until you decide to spend a skill point to morph it) increase one aspect of the ability.

For example:- Fiery Reach IInstant18 meter range60 Magicka* Pull enemy towards you* Deal 8 fire damageUnlocked at Ardent Flame Rank 1- Fiery Reach IVInstant18 meter range75 Magicka* Pull enemy towards you* Deal 15 fire damageOk, so now we have rank IV and get the option to spend another skill point to morph it.- Empowering Chains I (Morph)Instant18 meter range75 Magicka* Pull enemy towards you* Deal 15 fire damge* Increases the weapon power of your nextattack by 40%Upgrades:New effect:Next weawpon attack after casting dealsadditional damageUnlocked at Fiery Reach V- Extended Chains I (Morph)Instant22 meter range75 Magicka* Pull enemy towards you* Deal 15 fire damageUpgrades:New Effect:Has increased range.Unlocked at Fiery Reach V

Nice find.

You start with 100 in each attribute and you gain 20 in each attribute for each level.

By level 3 you will have 140 in each attribute. By level 50 you should have have 1080 in each attribute.

In the video he have 1143 Stamina without spending points in it.

Maybe he got leather armor passives that drive it up (but i think medium only give you stamina regen, not stamina pool)

enchantments...?

pvp bonus for holding pvp objectives...?

do armor and weapons have attribute bonus in eos...?

You also get 1 attribute point to spend per level (after the first) that give you another 10.

By level 3 you can have 190, 140, 140 or 150, 150, 150 or any combination in between.

By level 50 you should will have 490 spare points to allocate.

That mean the bulk of your attributes will come from level and only a minority will be from actual allocation. You can basically spend all your points to increase ONE attribute up to 50% (or 45.3% rather). I have no idea how much extra you can get from armor & weapons plus enchantments / armor smith / weapon smith - if any.... 

Having said that... It seem as if your resources (all of them) will drop VERY FAST and regenerate pretty fast as well (even mid combat). Only slotting abilities fueled by stamina (dual wield, two hand, bow, one hand and shield) will be gimping yourself big time. It seem as if you want to utilize both Stamina and Magicka. Only slotting abilities fuled by magicka (class line abilities, destruction staff, restoration staff) is not as bad as you can still utilize stamina for dodge, sprint, block etc... But I think you would want to have at least one spammable ability fueled by stamina in order to double dip into both resources (that mean you probably would want to have one of dual wield, two hand, bow or one hand and shield as at least one of your weapon switch selections).

1143 is pretty close to 1080. 

- point is still that you get the vast majority of attribute points from level alone.

This make it easy to switch roles. 

Just dress up in plate. Grab a shield. Replace your 5 actives with shield skills. Bang. You are now a tank.

Dress up in cloth. Grab a resto staff. Replace your 5 actives with resto staff skills. You are now a healer.

Well said.

 

Also, I just realized, do we have any means of translating the japanese commentary on the video of this thread? Any japanese members? We might find out something worthwhile.

(It is Chinese, not Japanese)