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#136
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Magelight will be everywhere. 12 meter radius. 

Maybe not in 1-on-1 quite as much, but certainly in groups.

Yes and Magelight is PERMANENT a toggle skill ... if I have Magelight on, no NB can vanish/ ShadowCloak in 12 m radius when in melee range with me



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#137
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magelight -5% total mana and 12 meter radius a low price for a skill like that....  stealth cac NB risk to have rough time in pvp. 



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Good nightblade will be able to outplay mage light. Mage light has only 12 meters range, good nightblade will observe that range and render the spell ineffective. 



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Good nightblade will be able to outplay mage light. Mage light has only 12 meters range, good nightblade will observe that range and render the spell ineffective. 

 

We are talking group pvp.  Gonna be a tough road to counter that.



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if you get revealed, you can recloak. You can also dodge right after or before cloak to prevent getting revealed. Getting revealed isnt a huge deal.



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since magelight stays on all the time u can only outplay it with a bow, melee just cant get a sneak strike if someone in the enemy team is using it,and i guess that tanks will use it



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if you get revealed, you can recloak. You can also dodge right after or before cloak to prevent getting revealed. Getting revealed isnt a huge deal.

 

Cloak gets revealed as well.

 

Maybe only people with magelight will be able to see you though.



#143
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since magelight stays on all the time u can only outplay it with a bow, melee just cant get a sneak strike if someone in the enemy team is using it,and i guess that tanks will use it

This is a big deal. what is the interst  or role of a melee  stealth nb if you can't approch for the first strike .  but your right the only counter i see to that for the moment it's to play distance or make a melee non stealth nb with heavy armor ?

 

But is sad.... if only this spell was an active skill and not  a toggled one. Because as said earlier -5% of tatal magika is a low price to pay for potentially make useless the stealth in short distance. Even if you can be see only by the caster he have 12m for cc you and after massive gank on you. And don't forget everyone can join the mage guild so potentially everyone can reveal you.

 

rough time ahead. time to make a counter.



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I dont want to scare too many people off... the toggle does take up a skill slot. Which will have an impact.



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Invisibility is only half of the benefit from shadow cloak, its worth using even if you are revealed IMMEDIATELY for the following reasons.

 

1. It removes a dot on you

 

2. It activates shadow barrier which gives you almost 2/3rds as much armor and spell resistance as lightning form for 4 seconds!

 

3. It gives you 15-30% stamina regeneration for 6 seconds

 

That is reason enough to cloak every 6 seconds, regardless of whether your invisibility is revealed right away or not. Shadow cloak is one of the best defensive skills in the game, just like sun shield and lightning form.



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There no reason to be scary at the moment cause is still the beta and we don't know how it will be until the release. But it's not a reason to don't fear a spell like that (at least if you want to play melee) it's will not a big deal for all NB depending on their template and stuff. 

 

Yep i think it will take a skill slot. it"s exactly like Siphoning Strike.

 

But many player will reserve at least one slot for utlitary in pvp so it's like Heavy Armor or Rapid Maneuver. this skill can become a must have for group in pvp.



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Invisibility is only half of the benefit from shadow cloak, its worth using even if you are revealed IMMEDIATELY for the following reasons.

 

1. It removes a dot on you

 

2. It activates shadow barrier which gives you almost 2/3rds as much armor and spell resistance as lightning form for 4 seconds!

 

3. It gives you 15-30% stamina regeneration for 6 seconds

 

That is reason enough to cloak every 6 seconds, regardless of whether your invisibility is revealed right away or not. Shadow cloak is one of the best defensive skills in the game, just like sun shield and lightning form.

 

Agree with you. sure you can engage with the stealth bow attack then switch and tp in melee and use shadow cloak only for the bonus the problem is for engage somoene with the basic "stealth mod" with for exemple a vieled strike.



#148
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my Nightblade Skills:

 

( 1! 2Handblade and Bow + Heavy Armor as Khajiit)

 

1: Teleport Strike (Assassination)

2: Assassin's Blade (Assassination)

3: Uppercut (2h Tree)

4: Shadow Cloak (Shadow) / Momentum (2h Tree)

5: Haste (Assassination)

Ulti: Death Stroke (Assassination)

 

1: Poison Arrow (Bow)

2: Scatter Shot (Bow)

3: Arrow Spray  (Bow)

4: Shadow Cloak (Shadow)

5: Snipe (Bow)

Ulti: Consuming Darkness (Shadow)

 

i hope the passives: Refreshing Shadows 15% Stam. reg after used a Shadowability and  Battle Rush from the 2h Abil. 25% Stam reg after killing a enemy will be enought Stamina refreshing 2 use the Bow effektiv.

 

what do u think is it a nice tree ? ^^



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my Nightblade Skills:

 

( 1! 2Handblade and Bow + Heavy Armor as Khajiit)

 

1: Teleport Strike (Assassination)

2: Assassin's Blade (Assassination)

3: Uppercut (2h Tree)

4: Shadow Cloak (Shadow) / Momentum (2h Tree)

5: Haste (Assassination)

Ulti: Death Stroke (Assassination)

 

1: Poison Arrow (Bow)

2: Scatter Shot (Bow)

3: Arrow Spray  (Bow)

4: Shadow Cloak (Shadow)

5: Snipe (Bow)

Ulti: Consuming Darkness (Shadow)

 

i hope the passives: Refreshing Shadows 15% Stam. reg after used a Shadowability and  Battle Rush from the 2h Abil. 25% Stam reg after killing a enemy will be enought Stamina refreshing 2 use the Bow effektiv.

 

what do u think is it a nice tree ? ^^

PvP or PVE? Too much stamina skills for a pvp build ... you will need yout stam to dodge, sprint, block, immovable. ... and no pvp skills against cc ... fpr pve? its ok



#150
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i wonna skill 1/6 magica 2/6 HP 3/6 stamina and maybe 2 mid armors 5 heavy + some Stamina enchantments are planed.

But i wonna use this skill collection also at the pvp. 

 

as opening the Bow with the snare usw and if they get closed 2 me i can hide me with the shadow cloak (Stam reg 15%) + weapon switch and a fast kill should refresh my stam.

 

thats the plan. if it works ? i hope so ;)






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